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Post by FootballFreak03 on Jun 13, 2006 17:35:08 GMT -5
this debate will talk about alcohol being served at sporting events. Should they be allowed to serve it for fans to purchase? You could say yes because it is a fan favorite and alot of people drink it. A huge profit can be made from it
But there are some reasons why it shouldn't be served. People can go out of control and drink way to much, which can lead to fights, inappropriate behavior, and other things.
So good debate. I will ask for final thoughts on like SAT or SUN.
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Post by GEO on Jun 15, 2006 15:19:16 GMT -5
I was leaning towards saying "ban it" but it's such a big tradition with sports. Baseball has it so beer sales stop at the 7th inning. This allows for those drinking to get most of it out of their system before driving home.
I know hockey has a cutoff time as well.
It's all about drinking responsibly. I don't think I've ever been to a sporting event where beer has had a dangerous effect on anyone.
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Post by FootballFreak03 on Jun 17, 2006 10:43:19 GMT -5
COME ON MORE ARGUMENTS!
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Post by GEO on Jun 17, 2006 16:15:13 GMT -5
First of all, don't use Caps Lock Second of all, it's the summer. Give it time. It's supposed to last six days anyway. I'll throw a mass PM out.
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Post by patsfan on Jun 18, 2006 14:36:39 GMT -5
Alcohol shouldn't be served. It causes violence. What good comes out of it?
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Post by blindlywewander on Jun 18, 2006 16:31:35 GMT -5
I don't drink and I think getting drunk is stupid. However, many people disagree with that statement and it is perfectly legal to drink alcohol so, according to the law, they aren't doing anything wrong. Unless there is some crazy new prohibition law that comes back, drinking at sporting events will never stop. It's good that there is a cut off, but people can get plenty drunk before the 7th inning or 3rd period (or whenever it is in hockey). I don't think it is anyone's place to ban drinking from sporting events, be it the league, the team owner, the stadium, state law, etc. It is the individual's decision to drink and it is at their own descretion how much they drink. There are plenty of responsible drinkers out there, so they should not be punished for those who have slightly less self control. Also, in regards to the alcohol leading to violence argument, I think that's an invalid statement. When you're at an away game and your team is winning, naturally you will taunt the home fans. Now, whether these home fans have been drinking or not, most will retaliate (normally with words, but with food or fists on other occasions). Having alcohol in the system does blur one's judgement, so they may be more prone to react violently than they would if they were sober, but if a person wants to fight or curse or act foolish, they're going to do it whether they have 10 beers, 2 beers or no beer at all.
Alcohol stays. I don't like drunk people, but there just isn't enough of an opposition to take beer out of stadiums/arenas.
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Post by GEO on Jun 19, 2006 11:01:01 GMT -5
It's also legal to carry a gun. Do you want guns in stadiums?
You say that it's not someones place to ban the drink from sporting events. Yet, if I own a restaurant, I can make it so no beer is served. If I own the stadium, I can do thre same thing.
Alcohol does play a role in violence. Someone who is sober won't freak out at a tiny statement, whereas someone who has been drinking all night might do differently.
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Post by blindlywewander on Jun 19, 2006 16:03:31 GMT -5
First of all, guns are weapons. Alcohol is not. That's a completely different argument. The legality of alcohol is much more widespread and aside from age restrictions there are no limitations on it. On guns, however, there are many restrictions (licensing, not concealable, etc.) Second of all, restaurant's and sporting arenas are very different as well. If you view it from an owners standpoint, removing alcohol from a restaurant is basically commercial suicide. Alcoholic beverages make a fortune at sporting events as well as restaurants. Yes, there are restaurants that don't serve beer, but are they well known? Have they been around for years like other restaurants? I can bet not. There may be a few cases in which I'm wrong, but in the majority of cases restaurants that choose not to serve alcohol fail in the long run. If you want to speak literally, I apologize for not saying 'it's not someone's place to take away alcohol'. Technically, they can do what they want if they own the place. What I meant when I said that was to make one think if someone took away alcohol, everyone would react- most would react harshly. I don't think any one person (owner) should be allowed to remove alcohol from sporting arenas. There may not be a huge drop-off of fans, because it's sports- it will go on with or without beer. In regards to the violence, it's hard to argue that point at all because the cause of fights is so widespread. I've seen a fight between several people I knew. They were all sober and still, one comment led to another, and the heated words turned physical. Fortunately, no one saw because we were in the nose bleed section. Anyway, my point is, violence can happen at any moment. Alcohol is a contributor, but it's not the sole reason for violence. Taking alcohol away may slow the violence, but it will not stop it. That's what security gaurds or for.
I can't believe I'm arguing for alcohol, but it's a part of life and will continue to be a part of sports. People are going to do what they want to do. Anyone drinking beer knows the effects it may have. Stadiums allow drinking because it is good profit and it is at the customers discretion how much to consume, thus the owners themselves are not responsible.
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Post by GEO on Jun 19, 2006 17:17:04 GMT -5
While a restaurant that doesn't serve alcohol might fail, any sports arena that did likewise would still attract the same crowds. The majority of the people are there for the event.
When I'm talking about fights, I'm not saying that fights would exactly be the direct reason of the alcohol, but it's 10x more likely that it would contribute.
FF3: Feel free to pick a winner today or tomorrow.
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Post by FootballFreak03 on Jun 20, 2006 10:59:32 GMT -5
and the WINNER IS........................................... GE....................... Blindywewander! CONGRATS! you can post the new debate in this board. Good job to all that participated.
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Post by GEO on Jun 20, 2006 11:08:17 GMT -5
I was going to say. If he didn't win this one, you'd be banned from making these threads. Congrats.
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Post by patsfan on Jun 20, 2006 12:52:12 GMT -5
Good job
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Post by blindlywewander on Jun 20, 2006 13:53:44 GMT -5
I won? Sweet. Ok, not to sound ignorant, but this is my first trash talk comp, so what do I do from here? I'm the one responsible for making the new thread?
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Post by GEO on Jun 20, 2006 15:22:31 GMT -5
Yeah. Pretty much, start a topic (about sports) that can be debated on. Past topics are in the Talkin' Smack board. All of the winners are posting in the winners thread at the top of this board. Once you post the debate, it is your job to keep it moving. You need to challenge the replies. Try and make sure that there are at least two sides people can take. After six days, you pick a winner.
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Post by phillyrules08 on Feb 2, 2007 23:18:26 GMT -5
Dude, are you kidding me. There is no way they can't serve alcohol at sporting events. They're a huge profit. It provides for a more entertaining enviorment. If oyu don't want to be around people who are drinking, don't go to the games. I mean really, iamgine the world of sports fans without alcohol.
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