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Post by wiz'wit08 on Mar 28, 2009 17:12:04 GMT -5
apologies to iPatriot, didn't mean to quote you out of context.
As to the age thing, since the mets are starting to age i think their sense of urgency will only help them.
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Post by jdbsa05 on Mar 29, 2009 17:24:38 GMT -5
I don't care how much the NY Metropolitans (their full name) are aging, or how much ESPN loves to degrade Philly (b/c we all know they do), the bottom line is this: The the bullpen contains the same group of players that have caused the Mets to self-destruct at the end of a season in 2007 and 2008. Until that group of players either departs or retires, the Mets will continue to have bullpen struggles.
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Post by OOYL on Mar 29, 2009 19:27:37 GMT -5
I don't care how much the NY Metropolitans (their full name) It's actually not. The original New York Metropolitans were a baseball club in the 1880's. The current Mets based their franchise off of that name, but are not referred to as the Metropolitans.
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Post by phillyrules08 on Mar 30, 2009 16:13:28 GMT -5
I think if the Phillies remain healthy throughout the year, they could easily win the division. But you cannot deny that the Mets are the most improved team in the division and one of the most in the league. Their problem last year was a shoddy bullpen. I think the Mets are gonna give the Phils quite a fight this year. Now I think that Ibanez is a downgrade from Burrell. Sure his batting average is higher and his RBIs barely, but on defense Ibanez isn't going to give you much more. His speed is a little bit better but he has virtually no arm. Ibanez isn't going to play full games either. Plus, Burrell got it. He was a Philly guy through and through and never complained. You can do whatever you want with this comment but that is enough to have earned him an extension. Good luck in TB Pat!
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Post by Nyi28nhl on Mar 30, 2009 16:33:32 GMT -5
I think if the Phillies remain healthy throughout the year, they could easily win the division. But you cannot deny that the Mets are the most improved team in the division and one of the most in the league. Their problem last year was a shoddy bullpen. I think the Mets are gonna give the Phils quite a fight this year. Now I think that Ibanez is a downgrade from Burrell. Sure his batting average is higher and his RBIs barely, but on defense Ibanez isn't going to give you much more. His speed is a little bit better but he has virtually no arm. Ibanez isn't going to play full games either. Plus, Burrell got it. He was a Philly guy through and through and never complained. You can do whatever you want with this comment but that is enough to have earned him an extension. Good luck in TB Pat! The Phills also gave Ibanez an extra year, and a little less than $3 Million more per year than Burrell got. Essentially they overpaid for a player in a market where everyone was signing undervalued contracts.
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Post by BlackOps on Mar 30, 2009 19:51:57 GMT -5
The core of the bullpen are the same group of players that have caused the Mets to self-destruct at the end of a season in 2007 and 2008. Until that group of players either departs or retires, the Mets will continue to have bullpen struggles. Well, Billy Wagner (who you view as a negative), Aaron Heilman, Duaner Sanchez, Scot Shoeneweis, Luis Ayala, etc, are all gone from the pen in '09, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.
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Post by MxHT413 on Mar 30, 2009 21:47:28 GMT -5
Here's the thing about the Mets bullpen:
Well first, I'm not sure where jdbsa was going either. The only returning Mets 'pen regular from last season is Feliciano as far as I can see.
Anyway, speaking of Feliciano...he's not getting any younger. Since 2006, while still respectable, his numbers have gotten progressively worse. While his K/BB ratio and hits against numbers remains similar, he's having a harder time getting out of his own jams. Look for an even higher ERA this year.
I can fit Putz and K-Rod into the same description. While they're both coming off solid years, it's much harder for pitchers to adapt to a different league than it is hitters. If you factor that in with the amount of blown saves from Rodriguez and the increasing hits against Putz, I wouldn't be looking for stellar seasons for this year atleast.
As for Green, Stokes and Parnell...time will tell. This is a very young group of guys that have had some success at times. I will say that I do think Sean Green is very capable of a quality season this year, especially if he keeps those homerun totals rediculously low.
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Post by jdbsa05 on Apr 2, 2009 14:41:15 GMT -5
I don't care how much the NY Metropolitans (their full name) It's actually not. The original New York Metropolitans were a baseball club in the 1880's. The current Mets based their franchise off of that name, but are not referred to as the Metropolitans. They still shortened the name.
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